Because I’ve seen them all. I’m all caught up like the rest of you kids.
Wasn’t crazy about New Caprica eps. Like the last 2 much better. Getting back to the mythology of the show. The ship just makes for a better self contained universe that magnifies tensions and issues. I like the fracturing along the lines of those on Caprica and those on Galctica during the occupation. People are like that. Always getting tribal and drawing lines between each other. Uniting only against something else. And feeling their trials give them a right to feel superior or worthy of sympathy.
Cant help feel i’ve seen alot of these plot threads and ideas in other sci fi venues over the years even if I can’t place them all. Seems some Star Trek plus a whole lot of Sci fi novels and movies.
But it’s still cool having them on a decent tv show. And hopefully they’ll find a new angle. It’s hard to tell where they stand philosophically. In my opinion there’s always been a sort of ambiguity when it comes to the Cylon threat and what kind of future is in keeping with our best interests and ideals. But with this virus thing introduced last week and the hybrid angle growing stronger you have to think they are closing in on having to take a stand.
The hybrid in the tank was too much Minority Report for my taste though. Seems like an advanced technological race wouldn’t leave themselves so vulnerable as to have so much hooked up and into 1 floating street poet doing free form beat verse with tubes sticking out of everywhere.
And hybrids were awesome when V did it 20 + years ago. They were cool when X Files sort of went there. They don’t have the same punch today though I like the idea. That’s where I stand philosophically. Call me a Cylon lover. I’d totally date #8. Tigh would surely cast me from an airlock for my beliefs.
BUt I think it’s silly to believe we’re not going to evolve even more over time. We don’t look or think like we did hundreds of thousands of years ago. With exponential technological growth we’ll surely have a different cast in the next few millenia if not sooner. We make the machines to be better than us. It only seems natural that we incorporate some of thier best characteristics. Science knows being all human makes a muddied mess out of far too many situations. A new paradigm must come. Has come. For the sake of the show I’m calling it the shape of things to come and I’m on board.
To a point.
The Cylons have some repressive and hypocritical aspects. And they have religious issues that makes me want to go medieval on their asses.
Well at least 2 of the models asses.
But the Baltar stuff is great as is the missing 5. I’ve been wondering about this for a while. Six said there were 12 models. We’ve seen 7. Why are these 5 unspeakable?
And how does Baltar get back into the fold? Is he spending the rest of his tenure on the show in the Cylon camp? I guess its possible. Maybe he saves them from the virus and gets his high perch like the Baltar from the old show. That’s all I remember from the old show thankfully and I’m not sure I want this Baltar to go there.
BUt all this Cylon projecting stuff and how it figures into Baltar’s communications with the iconic #6 that’s been all up inside his head is interesting. He’s not a Cylon. I think that’s obvious at this point. And laughable judging from 6′s reaction to the question. But could there be something else? If there is that other hybrid where did she come from? I thought Helo and Boomers kid was the first. Might it not have something to do with the virus? Or search for Earth?
Where did the virus come from?
Is anyone at home on Earth and if so just who or what are they?
Could it have anything to do with why we left there? Has this all happened before as the scriptures say? And could Baltar’s projecting chops be related to a circumspect ancestry dating back to this time?
And how the frack does Apollo get slimmed down that fast? They didn’t indicate a time jump between the last 2 episodes.
If it’s that easy in the future why doesn’t Bill drop a few pounds too?
Tigh is getting to be a problem.
Starbuck is the first woman I ever wanted to cut her hair. It just wasn’t her. Me happy now with her getting back to basics.
Roslin called up a little of that old time magic in that ep with the executions. She gave me one of those Stan speeches I so love. And giving Zarek an in is cool even if he cirumvented the law and almost got my boy Gaeta killed. That was my favorite ep of the season. Gaeta took it like a man though. No whining. He turned over the damned dog dish and he knew it. Frak these ungrateful doubters if they don’t trust him.
I may be getting a man crush on him.
He should get with one of the 8 models.
So say we all.
Or at least me.
The Earth they find will be a near future version of us. No doubt that is where the virus came from. The other posibility is that they go the Eastern Alliance way that the original show did. It was a stupid sub plot where Galactica discovers and old ship that they think came from Earth. Turns out it is it’s own race with their own super villain after them.
Anyone else sence time travel. They come across some time travel tech that lets them go back and re write it all. It does look like they are going the Imperious Leader route for Baltar but if they do it will have to be earned because he is too weak to the Cylons right now. The hybrid was a lame rip off. I am not sure i even get the whole concept. The skins are human but robot, so what are they a hybrid of? And if they are a hybrid of some previously undescript nature, then what is so damned important about Hera?
Seems to me like there is some hole being dug that they might not be able to get out of. One posible thought may be that the mystery 5 are rebels of some kind and blacklisted from the standard models we have seen.
My problem is with the scripture. It documents in detail the trip by the 13th tribe to Earth. So maybe it is not time travel, but since it only a mythical story told by the other 12 colonies, how in the hell did the scripture get to them in the first place?
Come on Ronald D Moore. You were so much better on Star Trek. (May be why some of this seems so familiar.)
PS. Tighe will be back and save the day. Also, Gaeda is my hero, i got goose bumps when he walked away from that.
Agreed on Gaeta.
I’m hoping for a self-fulfilling pro[hecy themse with the scriptures. Like they wrote this stuff based loosely on a past reality and then because of the limited thinking of the kind of people that treated the Cylons so badly to begin with, and the human tendency to retreat to myth in tough times, they seek its truths too literally.
Sound familiar?
I jsut rewatched that hybrid scene on the baseship and man oh man is her rap funny. Really does come off as some performance art, stream of cosciousness poet thing like I mentioned. At least to me.
BUt I think there has to be something to Baltar’s own projecting abilities even if he’s not on of the other 5. And if Cylons go back to Earth as this virus camped out at the lion’s head pulsing star place could be alluding to I wonder if there could be some kind of previous hybridization of which Baltar has some ancestry steeped in?
Problem there is that these fleshly Cylons are supposed to be a new innovation. BUt 40 years is kindd of a short time for evolution to go from toasters to indistinguishable from humans and linked organically-digitally-analogue- to each other.
The word “evolved” I take (on BSG for Cylons anyway) to be an oversimplification. They’re genetically engineered/evolved, including the wetware (head-meat) that allows this “projecting”. If Baltar is not a Cylon, it’s possible that the projecting “link” could be a type of virus in that wetware that is transmittible to humans. It would explain not only Baltar’s visions of Number 6, but also Caprica’s visions of Baltar. Sure it’s a reach, but hardly a bad one. We’d have to see if Helo can project and/or is linked with Sharon.
But who genetically engineered them? THe old toaster bodels don’t seem to be all that creative.
Wetware works for me.
So would some kind of genetic link depending on Cylon past.
No, I think the old toaster models are simplified Cylons. I think that there were more creative, intuitive Cylons (which is one of the reasons that the Colonials are so afraid of A.I. on the whole) and it was they that “evolved” taking things to the next level. The toaster & raider models are just kept around as grunts. Their autonomy is probably limited.
here is a stretch, Baltar is a Cylon (one of the unmentionables) created by the real human mad-scienetist Baltar on the Cylon homeworld, and more advanced than the other humanoid toasters, maybe ther is only one online at any given point, also would explain how he survived that nuke, with virtually no damage from the shockwave or radiation.